[ rose is actually very surprised to get such a long and, uh, not-sarcastic response, but honestly? she's gotta admit she's just a little pleased, too, and she reads it over and starts trying to make sense of it all, giving the situation some serious thought. it's a little ironic that rose has been the one dishing out so much romantic advice over the past couple of weeks, given that rose is not exactly a romantic.
rose gives him a serious response. get comfortable, because it's long as hell and might crash his tablet or whatever. ]
you've always talked a lot. anyway, there's no right or wrong answer here, so all i can give you is the unbiased pov you're looking for and whatever sort of perspective i have to offer. you can take it or leave it, but here it is.
so he admitted he was unhappy and decided to resolve it with sure, whatever you want? yeah, that was not a resolution, and yeah, you're right to feel weird about it, 'cause it IS weird. it doesn't even come close to things being not weird. just to clarify, what you're getting at here is that you want to do what will make dave happy, and dave wants to do what will make you happy, but you guys will only be happy if you're doing what makes the other person happy, and that isn't working to the point of screwing it all over. okay, i hope i got that right.
first of all, listen. having "publicity issues" or whatever you wanna call it doesn't make you some sort of douchebag. there's nothing WRONG with you. personality clashes and conflicts of interest are just bound to happen once in awhile. nobody's in the right or in the wrong, and it sounds like you're really trying, here, karkat. really damn hard, too, so give yourself some credit. you're willing to make a compromise both for your sake and his, and that's what doing the relationship thing means. compromises.
i don't know dave, and i don't know anything about him other than the fact that, apparently, he wants to stuff me in a locker. that's cool. i have no idea what kind of person he is or what crazy shit is swirling around in his head, but you're doing the right thing by communicating with him. talking about ~feelings~ isn't exactly easy, but it means that you're serious about him, and imo if he was honest enough to straight up say he's unhappy with what you guys are right now, then it means he trusts you enough to hope that you guys can turn things around and figure out how to change what lead up to those feelings. it's not hard to assume that he cares about you enough to do whatever it takes to make this work! going public is a pretty huge decision, and it sucks that it's this complicated, but if he wasn't invested in getting this shit worked out, he wouldn't have bothered saying anything, because what the hell is the point if he thought it'd be a waste of time, right? it's p obvious this guy loves you enough to be real with you.
he def has some issues of his own, namely not seeming to get what the hell an okay resolution is, but still. as long as there's a "whatever he wants" in there, then yeah, it's still a problem. it's gotta be whatever you both want, plain and simple. and i mean, i'm not you, and i'm not dave, but i guess what i'd do is quit talking about it and start acting on it, get it? no this or that, no back and forth, no "whatever you want" crap. if this conversation has been going on this long then maybe a conversation just isn't gonna work out what you guys need. you feel me?
your compromise made sense. listen. start out slow, as slow as you need to, but make enough of an effort to show him that, hey, you're serious about this, and he's gotta be serious, too. work your way up to making the next step. nobody's asking you to be attached at the hip 24/7 like those other idiots i've been dealing with. you just gotta do it to know what's okay and what's not.
seriously, there are gonna be bumps in the road in every committed relationship, period. working together to navigate them matters way more than what those bumps are, so stop asking him about it and prove it to him. show him. hold his hand every once in awhile. stop obsessing. it's not gonna be easy, but you care about him enough to handle things that are not gonna be easy, and they'll get easier. i'm betting on it. just don't sacrifice every single one of your own needs in the process, because that'll just piss him off and lead you down the opposite route. relationships mean 50/50. equals. you guys are just being goddamn clueless about that part. you both matter.
and when you've figured out whether it's made any sort of change or not? that's a better time to talk about it again.
oh my god... 1/2
rose gives him a serious response. get comfortable, because it's long as hell and might crash his tablet or whatever. ]
you've always talked a lot. anyway, there's no right or wrong answer here, so all i can give you is the unbiased pov you're looking for and whatever sort of perspective i have to offer. you can take it or leave it, but here it is.
so he admitted he was unhappy and decided to resolve it with sure, whatever you want? yeah, that was not a resolution, and yeah, you're right to feel weird about it, 'cause it IS weird. it doesn't even come close to things being not weird. just to clarify, what you're getting at here is that you want to do what will make dave happy, and dave wants to do what will make you happy, but you guys will only be happy if you're doing what makes the other person happy, and that isn't working to the point of screwing it all over. okay, i hope i got that right.
first of all, listen. having "publicity issues" or whatever you wanna call it doesn't make you some sort of douchebag. there's nothing WRONG with you. personality clashes and conflicts of interest are just bound to happen once in awhile. nobody's in the right or in the wrong, and it sounds like you're really trying, here, karkat. really damn hard, too, so give yourself some credit. you're willing to make a compromise both for your sake and his, and that's what doing the relationship thing means. compromises.
i don't know dave, and i don't know anything about him other than the fact that, apparently, he wants to stuff me in a locker. that's cool. i have no idea what kind of person he is or what crazy shit is swirling around in his head, but you're doing the right thing by communicating with him. talking about ~feelings~ isn't exactly easy, but it means that you're serious about him, and imo if he was honest enough to straight up say he's unhappy with what you guys are right now, then it means he trusts you enough to hope that you guys can turn things around and figure out how to change what lead up to those feelings. it's not hard to assume that he cares about you enough to do whatever it takes to make this work! going public is a pretty huge decision, and it sucks that it's this complicated, but if he wasn't invested in getting this shit worked out, he wouldn't have bothered saying anything, because what the hell is the point if he thought it'd be a waste of time, right? it's p obvious this guy loves you enough to be real with you.
he def has some issues of his own, namely not seeming to get what the hell an okay resolution is, but still. as long as there's a "whatever he wants" in there, then yeah, it's still a problem. it's gotta be whatever you both want, plain and simple. and i mean, i'm not you, and i'm not dave, but i guess what i'd do is quit talking about it and start acting on it, get it? no this or that, no back and forth, no "whatever you want" crap. if this conversation has been going on this long then maybe a conversation just isn't gonna work out what you guys need. you feel me?
your compromise made sense. listen. start out slow, as slow as you need to, but make enough of an effort to show him that, hey, you're serious about this, and he's gotta be serious, too. work your way up to making the next step. nobody's asking you to be attached at the hip 24/7 like those other idiots i've been dealing with. you just gotta do it to know what's okay and what's not.
seriously, there are gonna be bumps in the road in every committed relationship, period. working together to navigate them matters way more than what those bumps are, so stop asking him about it and prove it to him. show him. hold his hand every once in awhile. stop obsessing. it's not gonna be easy, but you care about him enough to handle things that are not gonna be easy, and they'll get easier. i'm betting on it. just don't sacrifice every single one of your own needs in the process, because that'll just piss him off and lead you down the opposite route. relationships mean 50/50. equals. you guys are just being goddamn clueless about that part. you both matter.
and when you've figured out whether it's made any sort of change or not? that's a better time to talk about it again.